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Hey everyone,

first of all the usual advice: Please excuse my bad English skills. I'm doing my best ...

But now lets get straight into my issue:

Since I got the Netgear WNR3500L, I'm using it with an 1 Terabyte USB-Harddrive attached to it. Despite the fact, that transfer-performance is quite bad, I'm pleased with it.

Now yesterday I discovered a problem. I asked myself if the following would be possible:

I want to have unrestricted access (without password) to the HDD in the network as usual, but at the same time password-protected access to the hdd over the internet by ftp or even better http.

Of course, I tried setting up the router (with standard Netgear-Firmware) in order to do that, but I had no success.

Is there actually the possibility to do what I want with standard-firmware, or do I have to switch to open-source firmware like Tomato etc.?

Thanks in advance,

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July 27, 2010 12:40 AM

Sorry, things are not fully clear to me. You said "I want to have unrestricted access (without password) to the HDD in the network as usual, but at the same time password-protected access to the hdd over the internet by ftp or even better http." -- that means you want unrestricted access to your USB HDD from LAN but restricted access to your USB HDD from WAN side through ftp or http ... is it right ?

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July 27, 2010 3:22 PM

Tathagata Das said: Sorry, things are not fully clear to me. You said "I want to have unrestricted access (without password) to the HDD in the network as usual, but at the same time password-protected access to the hdd over the internet by ftp or even better http." -- that means you want unrestricted access to your USB HDD from LAN but restricted access to your USB HDD from WAN side through ftp or http ... is it right ?

exactly :)

Tathagata Das Avatar
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July 28, 2010 3:51 AM

Are you able to access the USB HDD from WAN side ? I think existing firewall will not allow to do so.

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July 28, 2010 10:21 AM updated: July 28, 2010 10:24 AM

Tathagata Das said: Are you able to access the USB HDD from WAN side ? I think existing firewall will not allow to do so.

Sorry. I am to be honest not very familiar with these terms. But have a look at my config. :

http://nimga.de/f/ZNeAO.jpg

As you can see, I enabled access via Network/Lan, which does work, and access via HTTP (via Internet). I think that's what you mean with "WAN side", right?

Now it turns out, that if I click at the link with my IP-address that I censored in the screenshot, after some loading time I just get a blank page.

I guess, that's what you predicted (the firewall thing...). Anyway, that is irritating me, because Port 80 which is used for this connection is the standard Internet-Port and usually not blocked by the firewall. Or how then would I be able to surf the internet?

Probably I am horribly wrong, so please enlighten me. :)

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July 29, 2010 7:08 AM

There are 5 Ethernet hardware port. Among which one has yellow color and other fours have different color (most probably orange). Isolated port is the WAN interface and ISP is connected to that port. Currently you are accessing your USB HDD from LAN side via HTTP. I think users are not allowed to access USB HDD from WAN interface. HTTP is not blocked from the LAN side. But if you connect your PC to the WAN side you will not be allowed to access the USB device.
There is a feature called "Remote management". Enable that feature and try to access the USB HDD.
Hope things are clear to you now.

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July 29, 2010 11:48 PM

You cannot access the WAN address (that's the IP address you blacked out) when you are logged into the router from the LAN side, either wirelessly or plugged into one of the LAN ports. But try entering that IP address when you are at a public library computer or at a work computer. Then maybe you can see it. I have mine exposed and I can get to it over the internet from my work.

However, you cannot have it available to the internet with a password and on the LAN without. To make it easier to use on the LAN, you can have your computer remember the password. Then you won't get prompted when you connect to it.

I would recommend using a very complicated password for your router, including symbols, number, uppercase and lowercase letters. Do NOT enable remote management otherwise. I would recommend against enabling remote management at all.

Tathagata Das Avatar
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July 30, 2010 12:17 AM

Did you access USB HDD using WAN IP address ? Have you modified/added/deleted any firewall rule to do that ?

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July 30, 2010 12:41 AM updated: July 30, 2010 12:43 AM

I am not sure how can you access the board from WAN side without enabling remote management feature.

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July 30, 2010 1:09 AM

I access the USB HDD using the 174.xxx.xxx.xxx/shares from the other side of the internet (ie not in my home but at my work many miles away).  From my home, I have to use my 192.168.1.1 address to access it.  No firewall rules were modified/added/deleted.

Whatever device you have connecting the netgear to the internet may have its own firewall.  My cable modem provides my internet line and neither it, nor my ISP have any firewalls preventing incoming port 80 traffic.  Some ISPs do block incoming port 80 (but not outgoing port 80, which is why you can still access websites). 

At one time, I had a belkin router inbetween my cable modem and my netgear router.  That belkin router had a firewall and I had to put in a port forwarding rule in it to forward incoming port 80 requests to my netgear router port 80.  

One other note for hicon: If you enable both http and http (via internet) on that advanced screen, then you can set admin access for read/write to your shares and when you try to access it through you LAN using a browser (IE, Chrome, Firefox) it can retrieve the information without asking for a password.   But when you try to access it from a computer not on your network, then it will request the password.  It would also still need the password if you try to access it using windows explorer so that you could write files to it.

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July 30, 2010 1:13 AM

Tathagata Das said: I am not sure how can you access the board from WAN side without enabling remote management feature.
Remote management only provides a listener on the port you indicate (8080 is the default).  So if you did your outside wan IP address followed by :8080 then it gives you access to the remote management console.  But it is definitely not needed to get to the USB drive if you've enabled the http (via internet) option.  That is how I am currently configured (I just shut off remote mangement to confirm).

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July 30, 2010 2:05 AM

Thanks for the information.
hicon, then you can configure the board same way as Joman did and access UDB HDD from WAN side.

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