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pfhnyc

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While some USB devices appear in the router - I have some that will not. The one I wanted to use doesn't. - I know there is a list of compatible drives but I know others seem to work.

So, questions - Has anyone user a G-Raid drive with the router? Format NTFS

If the usb device is in a format that it can read will it still show the device at all.

Thanks

Paul

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August 6, 2010 7:43 AM

So far the only USB devices it likes are flash drives - all are fat32. You'd think it would prefer drives which had their own power. Hm.

August 6, 2010 8:09 AM

Which firmware do you use?

If it's tomato,dd-wrt then you can login via ssh,telnet and show us what happens if you do the following.

-after login execute command: tail -f /varlog/messages
-plugin the drive, messages should appear now

Copy and paste the output

August 6, 2010 11:09 AM

I'm just using the default firmware - I'm afraid another firmware may complicate things. Not sure is another firmware would fix this problem. - Hm. Might it?

August 6, 2010 4:02 PM

Another firmware would probably resolve this problem, but it cannot be guaranteed. Since I have not used this drive. From the Specs it looks like it should work with the latest usb module + ntfs-3g which comes with dd-wrt or tomato. The original firmware uses an older linux kernel (2.4) + older ntfs-3g.

Another problem is the speed when using ntfs. The ntfs-3g that is opensource has horrible performance around 2MB/s on these 450Mhz routers. Ext3 will be 3 times as fast. For some people this is still too slow and they prefer to have a real NAS.

Flashing another firmware is actually easy, going back to original firmware is a bit more work, but if you want a feature you don't get with original you won't regret it.

For example my favorite feature is , that I can set a time shedule for wireless operation. So at night wireless is deactivated and in the morning it's automatically activated again, if I really need it at night I just press the WPS button twice. That's a feature you don't find in the original firmware.

You'll find a dd-wrt demo here: http://www.dd-wrt.com/demo/
The online demo does not include all features that are available but should give you an idea how many features these alternatives give you.

August 6, 2010 7:37 PM

Well, I'll look at that thanks.
Have to find a time when I'm feeling brave to try it.
I would be somewhat concerned about speed.

In the meantime, I move data off an older Maxtor drive (that took hours) and wiped it.
Formated with FAT not even FAT32. But it is recognized by the router. So, I know something will work with it. -- Formatted the G-Tech drive in all sorts of ways and still no luck with that.

Thanks for the help,
Paul

August 16, 2010 1:13 PM updated: August 16, 2010 1:14 PM

May not be the answer you're looking for but this weekend I bought a 1.5TB Samsung Story Station (I know the name is cheesey :-)) but it's working wonderful with the 3500L (and Tomato). Quite cheap too.
Formatted with ext3 and is now home for many movies and series. The 3500L with media server works fantastic, it's serving 1080p material without any problem.

August 17, 2010 12:43 AM

Most probably the default firmware does not support NTFS. If you send us the console message after attaching the device then we will have more clear picture. What is firmware version of Netgear stock firmware ?

August 17, 2010 5:28 AM

Tathagata Das said: Most probably the default firmware does not support NTFS. If you send us the console message after attaching the device then we will have more clear picture. What is firmware version of Netgear stock firmware ?

Firmware - V1.0.2.50_31.1.25NA

At this point I gave up on that drive - NTFS, FAT32 - neither worked with that one.

Finally put on a smaller maxtor drive - actually formatted as plain fat. May redo that one when I have time to work on it.

But I have also found that even the slightest change on the router knocks the drive off line and I need to physically unplug it and plug it back in.

I do have a old maxtor shared storage plugged in the ethernet and that works fine. A different thing, I know.

Paul

August 17, 2010 5:29 AM

MarcelE said: May not be the answer you're looking for but this weekend I bought a 1.5TB Samsung Story Station (I know the name is cheesey :-)) but it's working wonderful with the 3500L (and Tomato). Quite cheap too. Formatted with ext3 and is now home for many movies and series. The 3500L with media server works fantastic, it's serving 1080p material without any problem.
Can't really justify getting one more drive. ext3 works?

August 18, 2010 12:20 AM

FAT32 and EXT3 are working with Netgear stock firmware. How do you unplug your device ? This should be done from Web UI. Otherwise there might be some unexpected behavior.
Anyway I will test this firmware when I get some time.

August 18, 2010 6:41 AM

It's not that I'd unplug it from the router because I wanted to. It would just stop working - I'd have to delete from approved devices, unplug it and plug it back in.

August 19, 2010 12:26 AM

Do a factory reset and try again. This is really unusual behavior. I have personally use this router with USB device and not face any problem till now. You can also try with different firmware version.

August 20, 2010 7:09 AM

I've thought about doing that but not until I can afford to.
One of these days.

Thanks

December 2, 2010 3:31 PM

Hi Kong, i love your firmware but now i want to use an USB drive (ntfs) and test it with your latest firmware, speed around 2MB/s :( I flashed back to latest orig. firmware and the same drive has speed around 9MB/s.
is there a chance that your firmware can do the same speed on USB?

P.S. sorry for bad school english....


>Another problem is the speed when using ntfs. The ntfs-3g that is opensource has >horrible performance around 2MB/s on these 450Mhz routers. Ext3 will be 3 times >as fast. For some people this is still too slow and they prefer to have a real >NAS.

December 3, 2010 5:36 PM

Unfortunately this is a license problem, can't ship the fast commercial version.
But I can check if the current netgear ntfs-3g binary runs with my built, this way it would be possible to write a little guide how to make use of the netgear shipped binary.

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