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June 14, 2012 03:21 PM

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fitzLan835

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I'm running a version of DD-WRT on my WNR3500Lv1.  Everything has been ok, but I recently developed a need to implement QOS. QOS doesn't work under the recommended DD-WRT builds for my router.

So I am planning to move to Tomato.

This is the build that I am planning to flash:

Tomato Firmware by Shibby for NETGEAR WNR3500Lv1 (BT-VPN) K26 USB 1.28 085V

Under DD-WRT, I have an ext3-formatted external HD with optware installed. Will that HD work "as is" under Tomato? I access it under both SMB and Netatalk. Or do I need to start from scratch?

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June 15, 2012 9:56 AM

Unless you just want to use a different firmware, why not just upgrade your dd-wrt build to one that has a working QoS? 17990 or greater on dd-wrt builds have a working QoS.

June 15, 2012 12:05 PM

Buddee,

May I ask how you determined 17990 has a fixed QOS implementation?

I did ask on the DD-WRT forums, but was unable to get an answer.

I appreciate your input.

June 15, 2012 1:09 PM

For one, i always watch the svn timeline for changes being made.

And for two, i'm a mod on the dd-wrt forums, so i try to stay informed. :)

June 15, 2012 1:19 PM

svn timelime? I guess that would do it!

May I impose on you for one more question: In a sticky in the Broadcom forum over there, some of the experts are warning to not go beyond build 14929. Why is this and how safe is it to move to 17990?

June 15, 2012 2:02 PM updated: June 15, 2012 2:04 PM

Mainly because the builds past 14929 are more experimental builds, the 14929 builds seems to be considered most stable, but atleast for me, the builds past 14929 have more features, so i use them more often, plus i like to test newer builds - which should always be practiced with caution.

Also there is other things to consider here as well, like with the wnr3500L v1 - if i remember correctly here, can't run the big build past 16785, which to have a working QoS, you'd need to upgrade past that one. It can however run the std-usb-nas build, which should have most everything you'd need. Currently, i use 18024 - to my knowing, most everything works in it, but i don't use a WNR3500L to be able to tell you how 18024 would work on it.

June 15, 2012 3:45 PM

buddee said: there is other things to consider here as well, like with the wnr3500L v1 - if i remember correctly here, can't run the big build past 16785, which to have a working QoS, you'd need to upgrade past that one.

I wonder why I couldn't run beyond build 16785.

This router has 8mb of flash memory, and build 18007 (the first Big build beyond 17990) is only 7.8mb.

The build I am running now is 7.2mb.

Or is the problem beyond 16785 more than just available memory?

June 15, 2012 8:08 PM updated: June 15, 2012 8:10 PM

Because of how netgear programs their boards, they use a small part of the flash rom to store the board config data. So in reality, you only get about 7.4 - maybe 7.5 flash available of the 8 that is there and the builds later than 16785 IIRC are like 7.6, so it won't fit anymore after that.

June 15, 2012 8:57 PM

Ah, I see.

I notice that the std-usb-nas builds don't include ext3 support.

Does this mean I can't use my ext3-formatted external hard drive as network storage? I'm using AFP in Netatalk to serve it out.

(I also see that I will have to cancel plans to implement VPN.)

June 16, 2012 11:11 AM updated: June 16, 2012 12:43 PM

As i noted earlier, i don't use a WNR3500L v1, so i can't tell you if you could use your ext3 drive, i would think if the std-usb-nas build doesn't have ext3 support, that would mean no, you can't use it.

Answers Post June 17, 2012 2:38 AM

To answer the original question, Optware won't work as intended, especially the OTRW scripts (services) meant for DD-WRT won't work any more. You will still have some basic Optware software being able to run, like the compiled binaries from ipkg.nlsu2-linux.org but that's it.

June 17, 2012 7:58 AM

Everyone: thanks for your patience and advice.

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